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Mexico :
I see the words “Is death penalty pro-life?” and I am overwhelmed by raw emotion; anger, despair, sorrow, hopelessness, and confusion. I am not thinking of the political and ethical debates regarding the death penalty and abortion; I am thinking of myself and my wife, children, and nation.
Coahuila, Mexico’s state lawmakers voted on Tuesday, 22 to 10 to propose a constitutional amendment to allow state governments to reinstate the death penalty for lethal kidnapping, four years after being abolished nationwide.
Before the vote, Coahuila’s Govenor, Humberto Moreira stated:
“In Coahuila the death penalty is not the issue, it’s how we should kill the criminals; by firing squad, slashing their throats, hanging or something lighter, like lethal injection.
We’re at war, so let’s deal with our enemies accordingly”
The death penalty was abolished in 2004 for civil criminal cases, but is still enforced in the military for charges of treason. The last execution carried out in Mexico was in 1961.
The grotesque acts carried out daily in Mexico by narco-cartels have caused many citizens in our deeply religious country to have a change of heart. Many feel immediate death to these monsters who are terrorizing our nation is the only sure fire solution to getting the upperhand over the cartels.
It is difficult, we are living a nightmare, but is reinstating the death penalty really the solution? I agree, returning to those words “Is the death penalty pro-life?”, a part of me wants to say “Hell yes, the death penalty is PRO-LIFE; it’s PRO my life, PRO my children’s life, PRO every citizen in this country’s life, but the question still remains: Will killing the lethal kidnappers and narcos stop the violence?
The ethical and moral question I have regarding this issue are minimal and straight forward: How does killing a man who has killed a man teach a lesson that killing a man is wrong?
To take a life when a life has been lost is Revenge, not Justice: Desmond Tutu
The social reprecussians could even be greater. We, as a country, are begging for the return of security, tranquility, and peace. How can we justify killing in our pleas?
Can reinstating the death penalty save our country? Will fighting death and execution with the same punishment return the beauty and tranquility we lost years ago? Will the narcos suddenly wake up in fear of not being arrested, but being sentenced to death, and call and end to the $80 billion dollar bloodbathed drug trafficking business? The answer is NO.
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind: Gandhi
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Sure, many people SAY they're against the death penalty, but it's much more difficult to say you're against the death penalty when someone is on death row for murdering someone you love. If you're wife, husband, son, or daughter was murdered, I would be shocked to hear you say that the murderer should continue to enjoy what little freedom he has.
(Global Perspectives)
I stated, from a legal stadpoint, the death penalty is useless..Eye for eye will not work...
My personal heartfelt opinion rund much deeper and much darker. I oppose the death penalty for these horrific acts because it is too EASY, too HUMANE for these monsters.
Joaquin Guzman, one of Mexico’s most notorious and poweful narco -cartel leaders was once arrested and imprisoned.He was like a caged animal, crazy and desperate. While he was in prison (he later ”somehow” escaped) a telephone call to his Mother was recordered in wgich he stated he would prefer to die a thousand times than face prison, a return to poverty and the loss of his power...
Lock them up.. Strip them and their entire network and extended family of every center of blood money they have. FREEZE ALL ASSETS.. Then let him sit and wonder, locked away, and powerless how his wife is going to put food on the table, pay bills, buy medications and SURVIVE..Let them face the same sentence each and every citizen of my country has to face every single day: Trying to survive: economically, emotionally and physically..Death in Mexico is easy, surviving’s a bitch and a punishment all in it’s own.
My personal heartfelt opinion rund much deeper and much darker. I oppose the death penalty for these horrific acts because it is too EASY, too HUMANE for these monsters.
Joaquin Guzman, one of Mexico’s most notorious and poweful narco -cartel leaders was once arrested and imprisoned.He was like a caged animal, crazy and desperate. While he was in prison (he later ”somehow” escaped) a telephone call to his Mother was recordered in wgich he stated he would prefer to die a thousand times than face prison, a return to poverty and the loss of his power...
Lock them up.. Strip them and their entire network and extended family of every center of blood money they have. FREEZE ALL ASSETS.. Then let him sit and wonder, locked away, and powerless how his wife is going to put food on the table, pay bills, buy medications and SURVIVE..Let them face the same sentence each and every citizen of my country has to face every single day: Trying to survive: economically, emotionally and physically..Death in Mexico is easy, surviving’s a bitch and a punishment all in it’s own.
(Local Perspectives)
For 12 years now the guys who slit the throats of my friend and his sister have been sitting in jail playing cards, watching tv, visiting with their families, reading, writing, and generally living a life that isn't much different than what they did on the outside. Every day these pieces of crap are allowed to live while my friend and his sister rot in the ground is an insult to their memory. They gave up their right to live when they made the decision to take the lives of innocent people. It is insulting that they have not been put to death.
(Global Perspectives)
Death? There have been times I have prayed for death and I AM NOT GUILTY, I am simply tired of trying to survive.
I fully understand your point of view, I just don’t think death is a solution..
Legally it will not hinder criminals from killing and personally, I think it is TOO HUMANE,almost a reward for their actions.
I can think of a hell of alot worse fates than having a needle stuck in my arms and drifting off to sleep, never to wake again..
Also, in Mexico, prison is MUCH different than the U.S. In the U.S. prisons are like many five star Mexican hotels..NOT HERE!!!
I fully understand your point of view, I just don’t think death is a solution..
Legally it will not hinder criminals from killing and personally, I think it is TOO HUMANE,almost a reward for their actions.
I can think of a hell of alot worse fates than having a needle stuck in my arms and drifting off to sleep, never to wake again..
Also, in Mexico, prison is MUCH different than the U.S. In the U.S. prisons are like many five star Mexican hotels..NOT HERE!!!
(Local Perspectives)
I think the death penalty is wrong. Murders should stay in prison for the rest of their lives same goes for child molesters. But I do not talk down to the families of the victims because if that happened to someone I knew I don't know what I would do. But killing someone who is not an immediate threat is wrong. Some people say it cost tax dollars to keep them in prison and they don't want that. Well that is the cost of living in a safe society. Using a cost benefit analysis to justify killing someone is wrong.
(Global Perspectives)
I like you, Lex, could never voice an opinion AGAINST those who have felt the loss of family, friends, loved ones due murderers..I FULLY UNDERSTAND their views and want/need for a type of equality in giving death for death..I have no idea how I would react in the same posistion..But as stated in comments above, although as a legal standpoint, I do not feel the death penalty is functional..my persoanl views and reasons for opposing the death penalty, I’m sorry to say, are not quite as noble.
(Local Perspectives)
Death penalty is just a illusion!
(Global Perspectives)
Hey Oscar,,,great article as usual...
I do understand where you’re coming from, but to be honest, if someone kills my brother; I would want him dead... I don’t care if it solves the problem or not... I think we would would feel like that if it happens to someone we love...
I do understand where you’re coming from, but to be honest, if someone kills my brother; I would want him dead... I don’t care if it solves the problem or not... I think we would would feel like that if it happens to someone we love...
(Global Perspectives)
I know I would feel it, I have no doubt about it...But I am NOT the law and I do NOT make up all of society...
For legal purposes, the results will not be found. The narcos will not stop killing or lethal kidnappings because of the death penalty being reinstated.
On a personal level, as I commented in various comments above..For these types of people, Death seems to Humane..I think they deserve WORSE .
For legal purposes, the results will not be found. The narcos will not stop killing or lethal kidnappings because of the death penalty being reinstated.
On a personal level, as I commented in various comments above..For these types of people, Death seems to Humane..I think they deserve WORSE .
(Local Perspectives)
Worse huh!!!
If there is worse then let it be... Either ways, I hope things calm down at your side of the world...
Peace...:)
If there is worse then let it be... Either ways, I hope things calm down at your side of the world...
Peace...:)
(Global Perspectives)
I don’t think eye for eye is the answer to our problems.. We have a bullet ridden, violent, blood bathed country, two wrongs won’t right our turmoil..
It won’t stop the narcos, it won’t bring our loved ones back, it won’t make our nation whole...
I don’t know what would be a good punishment for these people.. But I can tell you, my personal opinion is, many times death and the end of the daily struggle and tragedy, The end of the blood and fight to survive seems much more welcoming and rewarding then waking up another day and starting the bullet dodging fight to SURVIVE here in Mexico..
If us innocent citizend have been sentenced to DAILY NON-STOP HELL by these monsters, why should they receive anything LESS..
It won’t stop the narcos, it won’t bring our loved ones back, it won’t make our nation whole...
I don’t know what would be a good punishment for these people.. But I can tell you, my personal opinion is, many times death and the end of the daily struggle and tragedy, The end of the blood and fight to survive seems much more welcoming and rewarding then waking up another day and starting the bullet dodging fight to SURVIVE here in Mexico..
If us innocent citizend have been sentenced to DAILY NON-STOP HELL by these monsters, why should they receive anything LESS..
(Local Perspectives)
You have a point here Oscar... but I still doubt that I would feel this way if I had to suffer the Mexican people’s Trauma...
I don’t think I’d have the mind to think this maturely, hehehe...
I don’t think I’d have the mind to think this maturely, hehehe...
(Global Perspectives)
Oscar,
I have never been able to understand why someone who has murdered should be allowed to live.all the reasons given here I find inadequate:
”Our judicial system has a death penalty for a murder but that does not stop people from murdering others”...If this argument is valid then it should be applied to all crimes;and every form of punishment abolished.After all punishing thieves has not stopped theft!
”How can we say that we love life, but be so willing to take it away from others?”This is just semantics. Who says we love life? We do not love a miserable life;we do not love a diseased life;we do not love a torturous life;Why should we love a life threatening -and therefore a dangerous for others - life? And we are not taking life away from others;only from one who has proved himself dangerous enough to murder others.
”How I can we say it is wrong to kill and KILL to prove it is wrong?”This is a mis statement of facts.We are not killing to prove it is wrong to kill.We already know it is the worst crime to take another’s life.We are only making sure we give our worst punishment for the worst crime.
”he would prefer to die a thousand times than face prison, a return to poverty and the loss of his power”...Precisely.That IS why he MUST die.Allowing him to live only allows him to hope for and dream of regaining his former state of riches and power- and therefore murdering.
”I think it is TOO HUMANE,almost a reward for their actions”.This means you think imprisonment is a greater punishment.If so this must travel down the line of crimes,and we should not punish lesser crimes at all!Where is the justice in giving a greater punishment for a lesser crime.
My own opinion is that a murderer of any human being deserves to be put to death -just as I would want my son’s or wife’s killer to be put to death.The only exception should be if the death was unintentional or I (the aggrieved party) choose to forgive.In that case it should still be life imprisonment.
That is the only natural and just way.After all justice is the right of the aggrieved party too.
I have never been able to understand why someone who has murdered should be allowed to live.all the reasons given here I find inadequate:
”Our judicial system has a death penalty for a murder but that does not stop people from murdering others”...If this argument is valid then it should be applied to all crimes;and every form of punishment abolished.After all punishing thieves has not stopped theft!
”How can we say that we love life, but be so willing to take it away from others?”This is just semantics. Who says we love life? We do not love a miserable life;we do not love a diseased life;we do not love a torturous life;Why should we love a life threatening -and therefore a dangerous for others - life? And we are not taking life away from others;only from one who has proved himself dangerous enough to murder others.
”How I can we say it is wrong to kill and KILL to prove it is wrong?”This is a mis statement of facts.We are not killing to prove it is wrong to kill.We already know it is the worst crime to take another’s life.We are only making sure we give our worst punishment for the worst crime.
”he would prefer to die a thousand times than face prison, a return to poverty and the loss of his power”...Precisely.That IS why he MUST die.Allowing him to live only allows him to hope for and dream of regaining his former state of riches and power- and therefore murdering.
”I think it is TOO HUMANE,almost a reward for their actions”.This means you think imprisonment is a greater punishment.If so this must travel down the line of crimes,and we should not punish lesser crimes at all!Where is the justice in giving a greater punishment for a lesser crime.
My own opinion is that a murderer of any human being deserves to be put to death -just as I would want my son’s or wife’s killer to be put to death.The only exception should be if the death was unintentional or I (the aggrieved party) choose to forgive.In that case it should still be life imprisonment.
That is the only natural and just way.After all justice is the right of the aggrieved party too.
(Global Perspectives)
I understand an actually agree with almost everything you have stated..
As for my contradicting comments, it is just that. My personal opinion is VERY contradictive and blurred. Not concerning the death penalty id general, but concerning the death penalty to narcos and HERE in Mexico..
I guess morally, ethically, legally I am against it all. I do not feel it will deter any of the horrific violence, kidnapping, and executions we are experiencing.
Legally, I’m not in agreeance that
by taking a life I am righting the loss another life. Is the actual man in charge of pulling the switch, firing the rifle, cutting the throat, or any other mean of execution any less of a killer, even though he has reason and law on his side?
In a personal way, regarding my family; my wife, my sons, my only daughter, I know I would want the daeth penalty..In fact I WOULD WANT TO BE THE ONE TO EXCECUTE THE SENTENCE—–
but at the same time, as bad as it may sound, I have to be honest...I want to see some of the turmoil, suffering, fear, and despair that WE INNOCENT CITIZENS AND VICTIMS have been feeling to be FELT by the same narcos.. I DON’T want them to die an easy death...
Again, as you state, it goes back to life in prison for the most horrific crime there is: and as you state so truley, then what do we do with lesser crimes.., prison would be too harsh..
These are the very conflicting thoughts I face... This type of violence we are facing is NOT a traditional type of violence, maybe it IS type for a non-traditional punishment to fit the crime...I just don’t know..
As for my contradicting comments, it is just that. My personal opinion is VERY contradictive and blurred. Not concerning the death penalty id general, but concerning the death penalty to narcos and HERE in Mexico..
I guess morally, ethically, legally I am against it all. I do not feel it will deter any of the horrific violence, kidnapping, and executions we are experiencing.
Legally, I’m not in agreeance that
by taking a life I am righting the loss another life. Is the actual man in charge of pulling the switch, firing the rifle, cutting the throat, or any other mean of execution any less of a killer, even though he has reason and law on his side?
In a personal way, regarding my family; my wife, my sons, my only daughter, I know I would want the daeth penalty..In fact I WOULD WANT TO BE THE ONE TO EXCECUTE THE SENTENCE—–
but at the same time, as bad as it may sound, I have to be honest...I want to see some of the turmoil, suffering, fear, and despair that WE INNOCENT CITIZENS AND VICTIMS have been feeling to be FELT by the same narcos.. I DON’T want them to die an easy death...
Again, as you state, it goes back to life in prison for the most horrific crime there is: and as you state so truley, then what do we do with lesser crimes.., prison would be too harsh..
These are the very conflicting thoughts I face... This type of violence we are facing is NOT a traditional type of violence, maybe it IS type for a non-traditional punishment to fit the crime...I just don’t know..
(Local Perspectives)
We are already in a modernized world wherein we use more our brains rather than the sudden burst of our emotion. I still believe that no matter how bad a person can be he/she still deserve a chance to live. Criminals need rehabilitation not retribution.
(Global Perspectives)
I felt, maybe even still feel that way for ”normal” criminals, however, the more that I hear, read, and see what is happening in my country, I am more convinced that these crimes and criminals are not ”normal”... Can I man who kidnaps a five year old boy and injects acid into his heart be rehabilitated? Can men who are paid to mutilate, gut, decapitate, burn, hack into pieces, dozens of people over and over again be rehabilitated?
I was stronly opposed to the death penalty in the past, but more and more, I am leaning to the fact that it’s time to rid this world of EVIL, if given the chance.
I was stronly opposed to the death penalty in the past, but more and more, I am leaning to the fact that it’s time to rid this world of EVIL, if given the chance.
(Local Perspectives)
”Is the actual man in charge of pulling the switch, firing the rifle, cutting the throat, or any other mean of execution any less of a killer, even though he has reason and law on his side”?
I am afraid Oscar ,you forget -or choose to ignore -the difference between the two types of killing.And that causes the your confusion.
The murderer is a destroyer of life;and the ’hangman’ is an eliminator of those who habitually destroy life.
I am afraid Oscar ,you forget -or choose to ignore -the difference between the two types of killing.And that causes the your confusion.
The murderer is a destroyer of life;and the ’hangman’ is an eliminator of those who habitually destroy life.
(Global Perspectives)
Hassan,
You’re absolutly right..Thanks for making it clear.. I got caught up on the issue of KILLING, period..Not the reason behind it..When we are talking of the death penalty, We revert back to not Killing, but Cause and Effect, Action and Reaction, Crime and Punishment..
I have no problems with seeing these men DIE..They way there are destroying our country, killing us one by one, even better if they were rounded up and executed in mass..
Desperate times call for desperate measures, THAT I AM FINALLY REALIZING.. We will never regain our country, it’s love, beauty, and tranquility by ”playing my the rules.” These killers are unable to be rehabilitated, if released unto society, the will only kill more.. It’s time for Mexico to :Capture and KILL.
You’re absolutly right..Thanks for making it clear.. I got caught up on the issue of KILLING, period..Not the reason behind it..When we are talking of the death penalty, We revert back to not Killing, but Cause and Effect, Action and Reaction, Crime and Punishment..
I have no problems with seeing these men DIE..They way there are destroying our country, killing us one by one, even better if they were rounded up and executed in mass..
Desperate times call for desperate measures, THAT I AM FINALLY REALIZING.. We will never regain our country, it’s love, beauty, and tranquility by ”playing my the rules.” These killers are unable to be rehabilitated, if released unto society, the will only kill more.. It’s time for Mexico to :Capture and KILL.
(Local Perspectives)
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I have conflicting viewpoints of my own: But they all lead me to be against the death penalty..
It is NOT justice..How I can we say it is wrong to kill and KILL to prove it is wrong?